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02 April 2006

Three killed in Turkey bus attack: Pro-Kurdish unrest spreads from south to nation's largest city

Sunday, April 2, 2006; Posted: 8:29 p.m. EDT
ISTANBUL, Turkey (AP) -- A group of men stopped a passenger bus and tossed gasoline bombs at it, sending the vehicle careening into pedestrians and killing three in Turkey's largest city on Sunday as pro-Kurdish riots continued to spread Full Article

Regarding Turkey, my advice to those responsible for this carnage: "LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT". The Kurds show their true colors in public for a change, instead of using the guerilla warfare they have been waging for decades in the remote mountains and valleys of southeastern Turkey. Your actions speak louder than words, and the world sees you for what you truly are. To wit:
"...Meanwhile, a militant Kurdish group warned tourists Sunday to stay away, saying it would target Turkey's tourism sector. The Kurdistan Freedom Falcons had claimed a 2005 attack on tourists in the Aegean resort of Cesme that injured 21 people, and a Friday bombing in Istanbul that killed one.
The separatist conflict waged by Kurdish guerrillas has left 37,000 people dead in the
southeast region since 1984."


Litmus said...

Well they may want to take your advice, but not in the way that you think...

Also, loving it and leaving it are not necessarily mutually exclusive, as your current location and stance presumably show.

Murat Altinbasak said...

Litmus, point taken, it is possible to love it AND leave it. But having been born in the US and having built a name and a career here makes your comment about my location a moot point. I visit Turkey every year, at great expense. I contribute $5-10,000 a year to the Turkish economy.

So in what way would they want to take my advice? Hate it AND leave it? Hate it AND destroy it AND THEN leave it?

Nistiman said...

Murat, you seem like a nice guy but when it comes to the kurdish issue you seem, not suprisingly, very doctrinal. "love it or leave it"? Do you liken Kurds to guests who have overstayed their welcome? or tourists?

Actually, Kurds love Kurdistan -- the land where the Kurds live and have lived for millenia. It is only our bad fate it is administered by a very undemocratic state such as Turkey. Kurds would love the opportunity to live there in peace and practice their culture. It is in fact the Turks who have shown hatred for its people and the land. For the last 75 years, how many Turks have ever expressed a desire to live in Kurdish cities? (let me answer - maybe a handful of people) Every doctor and teacher dreads being sent to "The East". The region is impoverished economically, and the only thing that the Turkish state has seen fit for the region is to send in its military and enforce its "Emergency Law".

The type of dialogue you inspire compells me to tell you: it is in fact the Turkish state who is doing the hating and I would hope they would also follow your advice and leave.

Murat Altinbasak said...

I make no apologies for wanting a unified Turkey, where all citizens pledge allegiance to it's flag, regardless of their ethnicity or religion. This hould never preclude anyone from speaking their native tongue or celebrating/practising their cultural traditions. I also make no apologies for being against the destruction of Turkey, and against the separation of any part of it from the whole.

"Love it or leave it" does not mean anything deeper than what it says. No, Kurds are not tourists or guests--- They are citizens of Turkey and they need to act in a manner worthy of the distinction. If that is not possible for some Kurds, then I and any other peace-loving Turk would like for them to leave and not return. The same goes for any other ethnic minority member who is guilty of harming the greater good.

Anonymous said...


I think you are extremly confused using the American construction:
"love it or leave it."

As Turkish Americans we came to an established polity of our own volition.

The Kurds are an autochtonous population. We know they have inhabited eastern Anatolia for millenia before our ancestors did.

We know the Kurds have been severely repressed, including by, and arguably especially by, the modern Turkish state.

It is Ankara that needs to change its views and policy before it is too late.

I am very suprised to see this kind of language from a Turkish American born and educated here in the states. The open examination of history in Turkey is taboo, and in many cases has been illegal. Yet you seem to hold onto beliefs based on our own propaganda. Is that love for Turkey? I submit that deep current of denial and censored history when it comes to the bloodbaths and oppression of minorities in Turkey is NOT just academically and intellectually unsound -- it is also NOT pro-Turkish.