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10 July 2006

Anti-Israel Demonstration in Istanbul


Thousands of protesters carry a Palestine flag during an anti-Israel demonstration in Istanbul July 9, 2006. (TURKEY)
09 Jul 2006 REUTERS/Ahmet Ada

This was inevitable. I wonder if Israelis would ever demonstrate against the treatment of Kurds in Turkey, or more specifically, against any of the countless Turkish military operations against the old PKK... Not likely.. The Kurds aren't Jews.. I have a tendency to draw parallels between Turkey and Israel's respective "occupational issues"... Many disagree, but to me it appears that both the IDF and the TDF are both fighting similar wars against terrorist elements with similar aspirations.. -AT

5 comments:

Mizgîn said...

And I wonder if Turks would ever demonstrate against the treatment of Kurds in Turkey.

Funny how that terrorist list thing works, isn't it? The government invites HAMAS to Ankara, yet won't discuss immediate problems with legally elected Kurdish politicians.

Obviously, Kurds aren't Turks either.

Interesting that you disagree with a Palestinian homeland, but at least you're consistent, Murat.

metin said...

I think the same group protesting Israel or pro-Palestinian also opposes incursions against the Kurds by the Turkish military, as well as the 'terror' label given to all of the Kurds, especially the innocent civilians caught up in all of this. Aligning PKK with all Kurds is similar to what Hamas is to Palestine.

However, this is more than an Israel issue, it has always been about the 'elite' lining up with 'zionists.'

metin said...

mizgin: Turks demonstrating against the treatment of Kurds (I assume within Turkey - so they are Turkish citizens,) would be demonstrated only if the intent was not an alignment of favoring Kurds to have their own land. Two different subjects! No Turkish citizen (and you don't have to be a Turk to enjoy the benefits of such a thing) should be mistreated and should have a right as a citizen to be protected. However, when the particular 'citizen' rises up against the rule of the land and the citizenry they belong to, that's when things heat up.

If the 'real' goal is separation and secession, maybe Kurds (in Turkey) should renounce their Turkish citizenship, and then insist on their own land, government, federation, etc. Because, as Turkish citizens, such a desire could be considered 'treason' against the country they are citizens of.

Or they should ask for, rightly so, and would be supported, for any mistreatment to stop once they elect to remain citizens of Turkey after the mistreatment stops.

Anyway, my point is: Should Turkish citizenship only be granted to those who are Turks (as a race or ethnicity,) or can any one including ('foreign' soccer players who choose to become 'Turkish' citizens) Kurds be Turkish citizens while protecting and promoting their identity. This is the issue.

Murat Altinbasak said...

When did I ever disagree with a Palestinian homeland?

The invitation of HAMAS to Ankara was a mistake.

Oh, and don't forget, Kurds living in Turkey are TURKS! Just as Turks living in the US are AMERICANS! You no doubt agree that if Turks were waging a military campaign here, against the US, that our freedoms would be limited by American forces, and rightly so.

And until Kurds in Turkey salute it's flag, don't expect any crocodile tears or demonstrations against "the treatment of Kurds" in Turkey. Every single morning of elementary school and high school, I stood and recited the "Pledge of Allegiance" to the United States of America.. As it should be. Look into it.

Anonymous said...

You no doubt agree that if Turks were waging a military campaign here, against the US, that our freedoms would be limited by American forces, and rightly so.

Murat,

but we are here voluntarily as immigrants with a certain social contract.

Kurds are not immigrants they are an autochthonous population. They were where they are for a few thousand years before we even arrived in Turkey.