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29 January 2007

The Infidel: Playing the 'genocide' record in reverse

Not unlike a country music record played backwards.. (cowboy finds his horse, sobers up and gets his girl back) the videos which Infidel gives us this week are must-see material for anyone who seeks the whole truth about the Turkish Republic's early history. The hour long presentation which we find at The Infidel's blog under the entry titled The Turkish Armenian Debate Part 5, reveals a countless number of little known facts and historical evidence, proving that claims of genocide are not only fictional, they are completely dismissive of losses on the other side. Muslim casualties and suffering are an unsurprising non-issue for those in pursuit of reparations. Which countries should Turkey's claim for reparations be submitted to?
Hint: France, Italy, USA, Armenia, Greece, Russia, UK, New Zealand, Australia...

12 comments:

Sean said...

Murat,

One thing that Turks keep forgetting is that Armenia did not exist back then as a country. If the Armenian Government had been responsible for the so-called "muslim casualties", then we would make it an issue.

Moreover, if France, Italy, USA, Russia, etc. killed innocent Turks, then they should be confronted. If Turks died on the battle field, fighting the others, then that's called WAR.

Big difference.

Infidel said...

What kind of an argument is that, Sean?... You do not need to have an existing country to be responsible for death. Please watch the videos carefully because the Turkish dead in question are civilians not soldiers. The warfare part is over when the Ottoman soldiers retreat.

Yes, very big difference....

Bolsa Hye said...

Infidel,

Interesting that you require a time machine to be taken back to the office of Talaat or Enver as they give their secret orders to exterminate the Armenians, yet you have no problems, laughably, accusing Armenians of Genocide with absolutely nothing but a propoganda movie that even dares not say such a thing.

Bolsa Hye said...

Sean, I'm all for having open and honest dialog about the Armenian Genocide, but there are certain things that need no discussion. Today, you'd have to be a lunatic to argue that the Earth is flat, and that's basically what this thread is doing.

Murat Altinbasak said...

Sean, Turkish Republic did not exist back then either, so what is your point?
Turkish civilians died at the hands of renegade Armenian thugs whose tongues were parched from licking the boots of the French and the Russians... but no one cares when the victims are Turkish.

Murat Altinbasak said...

"there are certain things that need no discussion"

80 million Turks beg to differ.. clearly there is much to discuss. The taste of you own medicine disgusts you, I think.

Bolsa Hye said...

Murat, if you are behind the rest of the world on certain world developments, that does not mean that the rest of us have to stop and wait for you to catch up.

I'm sure as a competitive cyclist, you can appreciate that.

Finduk O. said...

Murat,
This is an interesting blog.

What's more interesting is the responses you have gotten by people who think the statement "there was an armenian genocide" is as factual a statement as "the earth is round."

There was more than one trial in the 20th century on the subject of "armenian genocide," and the international courts dismissed both on TOTAL LACK OF EVIDENCE.

If this "genocide" was never proven DURING the supposed event, and never proven immediately after the alleged event, then I dont know what type of new "evidence" these people have found 100 years after that date that makes the genocide as real as "the earth is round."

There have been instances in the past where Armenians have created "evidence," and some of that is still being circulated to this day, but none of it ever holds up in a court of law or in academic discussions.

If a group of scientists are needed to gather evidence that the earth is round, then a group of historians are needed to reach that "the Republic of Turkey committed genocide against it's own Armenian Turkish citizens" conclusion.

Furthermore, a court of law that can weigh the evidence of historians is the deciding authority---not Sean, not Bolsa, not any of the beautifully funded Armenian lobbies, and not any person who spreads lies spurred by hate.

Murat Altinbasak said...

Finduk, Thank you for commenting and for the compliment.

Bolsa Hye said...

Finduk wrote:

"There was more than one trial in the 20th century on the subject of "armenian genocide," and the international courts dismissed both on TOTAL LACK OF EVIDENCE."

This is factually incorrect. If you're referring to Malta as one of those, there never was a trial. As for the Military Tribunals, they resulted in the conviction of most of the masterminds of the Genocide.

You also said:

"If a group of scientists are needed to gather evidence that the earth is round, then a group of historians are needed to reach that "the Republic of Turkey committed genocide against it's own Armenian Turkish citizens" conclusion."

1. International Association of Genocide Scholars

2. Institution for Genocide and Holocaust Studies, Jerusalem

3. Virtually every other Holocaust and Genocide scholar on Earth.

But of course you have Justin McArthy, and somehow you think that makes the Earth flat again.

Murat Altinbasak said...

Bolsa and Sean:
I like having you guys around. You debate intelligently and without resorting to personal attacks.
Sometimes it's just best when people "agree to disagree", especially when both sides fail to indoctrinate the other. Better if we all strive for understanding in lieu of agreement. Anyway, thanks for being a regular visitor and contributor here. I may not always reply, but I'm always reading, trust me.

Bolsa Hye said...

Thanks Murat. Over all, I think you're a good guy. Sometimes I get mad at you, because I feel that you "feel me/us" but you are hiding it. But then I read your other posts about your biking, your family, your dad, etc., and then I'm not mad anymore. It's hard to stay mad at someone when you know about their other interests and you like what they are about with respect to those other interests.