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10 April 2007

American Flag Burners Arrested

"..Two of the students, Nikolaos Angelopoulos and Farhad Anklesaria, are 19. According to the authorities, Mr. Angelopoulos is a citizen of Greece, and Mr. Anklesaria is British. The third student, Hyder Akbar, 23, was raised in Afghanistan but is a United States citizen..."
When did flag burning become a crime in this country?! Were they arrested because the flag which burned did not belong to them? or because they caused a hazardous condition? or because of their ethnicity, nationality or religion? Inquiring minds want to know. -AT
Prank or Statement? Deal or No Deal? With Us or Against Us?

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

"Two of the students, Two of the students, Nikolaos Angelopoulos and Farhad Anklesaria, are 19. According to the authorities, Mr. Angelopoulos is a citizen of Greece, and Mr. Anklesaria is British. The third student, Hyder Akbar, 23, was raised in Afghanistan but is a United States citizen. He is an acquaintance of Rahmatullah Hashemi, the former Taliban spokesman who made headlines when he enrolled at Yale, are 19. According to the authorities, Mr. Angelopoulos is a citizen of Greece, and Mr. Anklesaria is British. The third student, Hyder Akbar, 23, was raised in Afghanistan but is a United States citizen. He is an acquaintance of Rahmatullah Hashemi, the former Taliban spokesman who made headlines when he enrolled at Yale"

I think Nikolaos Angelopoulos and Farhad Anklesaria should be asked to leave this country and Hyder Akbar have his citizenship revoked and then asked to leave. Prank or no prank, it is pure disrepect. Freedom of speech is one thing, but burning the flag is another. It represents all the brave men and women who have died over the years to make this country great. It's extremely insulting to "americaness" to have foreign born individuals burn the flag on US soil.

derinsular said...

Yeah, right, everything we find 'insulting' must be illegal.

istanbulexpat said...

I've seen it posted elsewhere, I don't know who said it but, "I'd rather wrap myself in the constitution, and burn the flag, then wrap myself in the flag and burn the constitution."

Freedom of expression, plain and simple. Get over it. Lighten up.

Anonymous said...

istanbulexpat said:

"Freedom of expression, plain and simple. Get over it. Lighten up."

You call it freedom of expression. I call it insulting to have 2 non US citizens and a foreign born citizen burn the US Flag. It is an extreme show of disrespect. Why do you think so many people in countries less than friendly to the US burn US Flags. As a show of contempt and disrespect. What's more insulting is the individual who came here and asked the US to become a citizen of this great land. He's the one I am most offended by. The other two yahoos are just idiots.

This would never be allowed in Turkey.

derinsular said...

Yeah, and why don't we also import some other bans and restrictions that are already in effect in Turkey. That would be great.

Gulay said...

derinsular.......I suggest we dont even go there!!!!!!!!

istanbulexpat said...

Anonymous said:
"This would never be allowed in Turkey."

Yeah, that's right, because idiots would lynch you if you did.

That is why American is so great!!!!
It's called FREEDOM! It's what every soldier (since GWB) has died for and what our founding fathers desired - the end of tyranous rule. It is what you take for granted. Yeah, I agree those three guys had balls, but I'd like to know what they were charged with.

Maybe you should have your citizenship taken away - not funny, is it?

Anonymous said...

istanbulexpat said:

"Yeah, I agree those three guys had balls, but I'd like to know what they were charged with.

Vadalism at least or destruction of property, perhaps tresspassing.

I say again, "Prank or no prank, it is pure disrepect. Freedom of speech is one thing, but burning the flag is another. It represents all the brave men and women who have died over the years to make this country great. It's extremely insulting to "americaness" to have foreign born individuals burn the flag on US soil. "

"Maybe you should have your citizenship taken away - not funny, is it?"

I am not the one burning the flag. I am also not a foreinger showing disrespect to the symbol of this nation.

I would also say that about any US born idiot who burned the flag. If you don't like this country, get the %$!# out and don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out!

Anonymous said...

Theodore Roosevelt's ideas on
Immigrants and being an AMERICAN in 1907.

"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes
here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he
shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an
outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or
birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in
every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no
divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but
something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag,
the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that
is the English language...and we have room for but one sole loyalty and
that is a loyalty to the American people."

Theodore Roosevelt 1907

derinsular said...

"Any man who says he is an American, but
something else also, isn't an American at all."

This web site belongs to an 'American Turk," who, then, according to Roosevelt, is not American at all.

But thanks to the Constitution, we may just laugh in the face of Roosevelt - and you.

JJ said...

Third generation vet, all of us combat. My dad taught me to respect and love the flag and I taught my sons.

That being said, I think Anonymous doesn't understand America, or the basics of democracy and liberty.

Calling national symbols, inanimate or written; views of history; or individuals treated as sacred, into question is a core element in the growth, evolution and health of a democracy.

Sometimes or even mostly, this will erroneous, on the facts, conclusions -- or even motives.

You cannot forbid it or quash it without quashing democracy and liberty itself.

One must also observe that those screaming the loudest against such things are often using "patriotism" as a mask for prejudice or a distraction

the Husband said...

well anonymous if you cant call yourself something else after American what would the NYPD do if they could not sing Galway Bay!!!! myself I have a problem because Amerikan Englishman just does not sound write, I know maybe "Married to an Amerkian Turkican" or something....pride in your roots is no bad thing and lets face it apart from the "Indians" everyone if from somewhere else in this country...its what makes it so damn interesting.....at least the flag is displayed here, go to the UK and try this it will take you forever to find a flag to burn....